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Really really cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek blog post, that I didn't make clear ... my negative In reply to spitfirebill: I added that point since when I had to find a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I had to go through each in every junkyard in South Jacket to locate one that had not been sludged up actually severely.
Bernie: Which is a better van, while we're going to speak concerning a few problems of these vans, however I I'm clearly not going to come out and claim one is better than the various other. Bernie: Well, they're basically the exact same car.
Mark: So, well, let's begin with engines then. Let's speak concerning engine and in fact just to specify that the version years, we're going to start from 2000 and up, you understand, I indicate, these vans have actually been around for a lengthy time.
And, you understand, for a version of a Chevy van has actually been around since, you recognize, around that time also. So we're not going to get back into, right into the earlier things. Since 2000, I imply, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are a lot more popular and I wouldn't actually suggest a V6 engine.
There's a whole lot of problems with these engines. In the earlier 2000 trigger plugs with impact to these engines, since they really did not have enough threading in the stimulate plug, which triggered problems.
So if you're getting anything from most likely 08 and more recent, you're not mosting likely to have that type of trigger plug concerns. Other locations though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will certainly leak, they'll create coolant leakages. It's a plastic manifold generally you need to replace the entire thing.
And there's some concerns, the Ford engine I have to claim in their favour, due to the fact that I'm discussing issues, it's a more innovative engine. Overhead camera, so you're getting more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is an easier layout with push poles.
They're simply actually respectable, resilient, solid engines. You know, being a van, naturally, you understand, doing any solution on them is more complex because you've got to remove that cover and enter into maintenance in odd methods. However things like ignition system last a horrible lengthy time, so they don't require to be changed extremely usually.
Mark: Can you acquire these vans with diesel engines? The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a long time, like method back prior to the 2000 design year.
You recognize, that's still available. If you're a say, I don't know, I'm simply going to say a plumbing professional and you have actually got like a lot of heavyweight inside your van and you're hauling a trailer behind it, that would certainly be a truly great use of having a diesel powered van.
In all justness, it appears like the diesels are, they appear to have much less problems in vans than they do in the trucks. Probably since they aren't functioned so hard, yet when points take place, they're really pricey to repair. We have actually obtained a great deal of video clips and details about diesels, especially the Fords.
So you really need to believe twice concerning getting a diesel in a van. That's my recommendation. Mark: Yeah, so in shape for purpose, make certain that you're suitable the engine that you're purchasing for the function that you're endeavouring to accomplish. Bernie: Yeah, specifically. And I will certainly state, Chevy is virtually limited to V8 engines, yet Ford has a V 10 engine too, which is an impressive gas consuming engine.
If you're, and again, we're simply talking regarding kind of a directly, normal freight van below. The diesel most definitely isn't the most effective alternative. Look at your purpose, your use, just how much weight you're transporting and that'll aid you decide. Mark: What about the transmission and the remainder of the drive train? Bernie: They're pretty much equal.
Something that we have not chatted regarding here is what type of van. These vans are, and it relies on what version, they're offered ever from half lot to one lot framework and actually a few of the exploded view vans are really a lot more durable, like, you recognize, 450s and 550s for state the Fords.
Yet normally the drive trains, you recognize, I discover them to be basically equal. Mark: So let's chat about steering and suspension. Just how do they compare? Bernie: You understand, I'm going to offer the edge to Ford on this set. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little simpler.
There's much less guiding link included in a Chevy. So there are less parts to wear. They do a ball joints that break. Do Chevy's, but it seems, and the Chevy's most likely last a little longer than the Fords, however the, you know, the guiding affiliation is much less complex, so there's much less components and much less items to put on out.
The trip in a Ford is possibly a bit a lot more truck like but I don't understand if you 'd really ever before really discovered a difference between the two. It appears like their parts are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What regarding brakes? Bernie: Brakes are pretty much the same, yet I will say that it feels like with Fords, the means they build their brake calipers, that they often tend to need to be replaced nearly each time you do a brake job.
For one reason or another, they appear to last for one brake job. And afterwards a great deal of times we take the brakes off and say, Oh, the dust boots torn, therefore the caliper requires to be changed. So I think on a Ford and you can expect to spend a bit more money on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to swerve back prior to the 2000 version years, there were some Chevy vans that had truly negative doors. I imply, the gliding doors were crap, you understand, truly terribly built. As a matter of truth, I would state that if you are also looking at something older, it looks like Chevy and GMC vans really and their vehicles generally really took a leap ahead in quality around the 2000 model year, since there was a great deal of stuff where the brakes as an example would not last extremely long whatsoever.
If we're looking at the 2000 more recent, I mean, I would certainly claim they're both most likely pretty much matching in top quality, fit and finish, you recognize, some of the guest vans, of program we'll have better appointments than the cargo vans. However I can not claim that a person of them sticks out to me a little more than the other.
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